Would you help us to correct the rating of the BT maps?

p-a-w-e-l · Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 18:53 Post subject:

Also Oracle R6? Shocked

Its at least 4 lol
Some even say its r3.

Jenny' · Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:11 Post subject:

Indeed. I'd give oracle r4

[UTW]R@m$e$ · Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 13:21 Post subject:

R4 is more then enough for oracle. Is more a r3.

Jenny' · Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 13:45 Post subject:

There are some sequences, have to figure out It Smile

Can be difficult for new players. And one room with lava has some jumps, not so easy to do it at 1st time. But indeed. After i figured out full map it was easy for me. Could be r3 also after training

[UTW]R@m$e$ · Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:20 Post subject:

BT-Loop-dbl is a R4 for me.

[UTW]R@m$e$ · Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 19:31 Post subject:

This is my opinion:

BT-BadBlood R4

BT-Xtremewoot][(ALPHA)-dbl R2

BT-Impulse][-dbl R2

BT-PhalanX R6

BT-(ow)RushengIV-v3 R3

BT-BTGod][ R1

BT-(Plat)Infinity-i4g R1

BT-AoB-BunnyTrip-fix R3

BT-(ow)RushengV-v2 R1

BT-ForAyK-fix R1

p-a-w-e-l · Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 19:54 Post subject:

BT-(ow)RushengIV-v3 R2
BT-ForAyK-fix R2

Agreed with rest.

!!Frit!!Viandel · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 16:25 Post subject:

Maps where the certified and regular capturetime is close to or above 10 minutes could deserve rating10 - examples being puzzlecastle and museumforstruppi.
I do believe maps like icecavern(8 ), oracle(5) and four(7) are rated too low.

I am willing to negotiate

`Chr1st-BLS · Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:34 Post subject:

I haven't played IceCavern or Oracle yet, so I can't really comment on that, but the rating of PuzzleCastle and Museum could go either way indeed, D9 or D10. Now that I think of it, I'd rate them both D10 - especially PuzzleCastle. But they are a bit tricky to rate given their length.

I'd probably up (LT)FOUR to a D6, even though most of the obstacles are forgiving, they are still fairly hard to execute.

Two more (old maps):

(Mon-Ch)AbilitaPunteria is now a 4, but i'd rate it (back) to 5 or 6. Hard ending with precise shots.

KnighTfarE][ is lowered to a 4, but it's arguably the hardest of the KnighT-named maps (all rated 5), so I'd make that 5, possibly change it back to 6. I vaguely recall that you could rather easily die somewhere far in the map.

p-a-w-e-l · Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 16:43 Post subject:

jvnkie · Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 20:04 Post subject:

Imo Lethalsun should stay 8. It's crazy long and you can die in virtually any room till the end. I capped quite some 7's now but Lethal is on another level. in my book. Smile

P.E.R.N · Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 16:07 Post subject:

Ah, I forgot a bit your last post suggestion Christ will have to work on it as I was on Night Terror list.

About Pawel sugestions : I found Lethal and Scarab harder than usual D7 + they are long (still not totaly sure about Scarab). Ofc some more feedback are always welcome.

For SkaarjBT I rated it D9 in waiting, there is no problemo to adjust a rate later.
I usually don't rate the higher rating maps and Ghost was more for a D8 on this one Very Happy

, if some more agreed with Pawel about D10 on this map, it will go to D10.
(and no Pawel don't begin to pm all to say its a D10 please :p). Players will cap it eventually as for the moment only 3 guys capped it !

About the unrated one, its noted Pawel, they will be rated in a few.
Ty for ure feedback guys (Ch1rst, Patrik, Fky, Pawel, Ramses, NT who send me a list and all other).

-}Night_Terror{- · Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 16:16 Post subject:

Scarab is a map I have played a lot; but still struggle with especially the final room. I think 8 is right for it.

As for Lethal Sun, its a pretty long and hard map but none of the rooms are really that difficult; you are most likely to die in the first room when doing a run, its probably an 8 based on difficulty x length.

Here is the list I had, I had more maps on it but PERN went through some of them and changed them,

BT-Speedingtime 4 --> 6
BT-Deft(lite) 7 --> 9
BT-SuddenDeath 8 --> 9
BT-Purgatory 6 --> 7
BT-Flagrant 10 --> 9
BT-GalavanizeEZ 8 --> 9/10; It's slightly easier then the other version, but theres still only 9 cappers and its an extremly hard map. Not really an "EZ version" Both could be 10
BT-EndEZ 7 --> 8
BT-DeclineEZ 7 --> 8
BT-Friction 5 --> 7
BT-RO-DecayedCollapse 7 --> 6
BT-PuzzleCastle 9 --> 10 ; Hardly any caps on this map
BT-NSMFactory 8 --> 9
BT-AdventuresFIX N/A --> 7
BT-Mechanic N/A --> 8
BT-Froztv2 7 --> 8
BT-(JJ)Recon 7 --> 8
BT-EasyBunny 10 --> 5
BT-Stargate-SG1-V2 6 --> 9 ;
BT-(B)AboveAndBeyond 6 --> 4
BT-Osiris 4 --> 5
BT-Reminiscence 5 --> 6/7
BT-Lanayru 8 --> 9
BT-Bounceeng 4 --> 6
BT-Aperture 6 --> 7
BT-Over(Roel)ed 4 --> 6
BT+Skaarjified 4 --> 5
BT-Speedeng 4 --> 5/6
BT-FOUR 5 --> 6/7
BT-(alc)Pergamon 5 --> 6; Same rating as CE2 which is A LOT easier
BT-LittleCastle 2 --> 3; Tight timings and hard shots, might be easy for pros but pretty hard for scrubs.
BT-BunnyPhobos 1 --> 2;

OwYeaW · Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 17:02 Post subject:

SkaarjBT better change it to 8 than to 10 :O (imo its a 6 or 7)

bounceng 4 -> 6 ?? 4 is more than enough

`Chr1st-BLS · Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 17:15 Post subject:

No worries PERN, thanks for your reply nonetheless.

I can't completely remember Museum, so my comment on upping that to D10 may not be exactly spot on. I still stick to the other suggestions however (FOUR, KnighTfarE, PuzzleCastle and AbilitaPunteria).

I'll just be so bold and elaborate on your list, NT, as I'm one of those (maybe odd) few that enjoys rating systems heh. Good list btw!

As for Scarab and LethalSun. I'm always a bit hesitant in changing the ratings of some well-known classics, but that may not be fair compared to other maps. For me personally, Scarab is not any harder than other D7s, but I guess it can go either way with 7 or 8. If I were to assign an 8 to one of these two maps, I'd give it to LethalSun. Mainly because of its length and rough start.

Names in italic i'm simply not familiar enough with

BT-Speedingtime: 4 --> 6 : Agreed on the increase, to a 5 tho for me
BT-Deft(Lite): 7 --> 9 : Same as the above, but to an 8. Gets really tricky at the end
BT-SuddenDeath 8--> 9 : Agreed
BT-Purgatory 6 --> 7 : Indifferent. Bit of an (LT)FOUR situation heh. Pretty difficult to die on this map as far as I remember. Guess i'd keep it at 6.
BT-Flagrant 10 --> 9 : Agreed, always sad to see a D10 go though Wink

BT-GalvanizeEZ 8 --> 9/10 : haven't played this
BT-EndEZ 7 --> 8 : Agreed
BT-DeclineEZ 7 --> 8 : I think I'd leave it at 7 as it's arguably a lot easier than Decline HV (lift, walljumps)
BT-Friction 5 --> 7 : Agreed on the increase, probably to a 6 tho (not entirely sure)
BT-RO-DecayedCollapse 7 --> 6 : I'll stick to my hesitant/reluctant to change classics here, so 7 Wink

BT-PuzzleCastle 9 --> 10 : Agreed
BT-NSMFactory 8 --> 9 : Not entirely sure, can go either way, 8 or 9.
BT-AdventuresFIX N/A --> 7
BT-Mechanic N/A --> 8
BT-Froztv2 7 --> 8 : Agreed
BT-(JJ)Recon 7 --> 8 : Agreed
BT-EasyBunny 10 --> 5
BT-Stargate-SG1-V2 6 --> 9 : I actually would not change it at all heh.. At max to a 7. Did CN trick you at the end somewhere? Wink

BT-(B)AboveAndBeyond 6 --> 4 : Possibly to a 5?
BT-Osiris 4 --> 5 : Agreed, but can't remember in detail
BT-Reminiscence 5 --> 6/7 : Agreed with a 6
BT-Lanayru 8 --> 9 : Agreed, have been thinking about this one as well
BT-Bounceeng 4 --> 6 : given how bad I am at bouncing, I should not rate this heh
BT-Aperture 6 --> 7 : Don't recall it in that much detail, but I think a 7 could work?
BT-Over(Roel)ed 4 --> 6 : Agreed on increase, but 5 for length.
BT+Skaarjified 4 --> 5 : Agreed
BT-Speedeng 4 --> 5/6 : Same comment as on Bounceng, tho I found this one more difficult. 5 perhaps?
BT-FOUR 5 --> 6/7 : Agreed on 6
BT-(alc)Pergamon 5 --> 6 : Agreed
BT-LittleCastle 2 --> 3 : I'd still rate that 2
BT-BunnyPhobos 1 --> 2 : Never thought about this one, but D2 may work.

Thanks for the list NT Wink

Haven't played any of the newer ones, with the exception of UnarbitrarilyAztec (I'd say a 7), so I'll get back to that.

SkaarjBT did look really hard is all I can say heh

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