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RoomCastle

Author: GiorgiO.pX5
Added:Sun Jan 06 at 19:47
Rating:2
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AAAAAAAA
USER: AAAAAAAA

SpectatorSpectator
Posted: Thu Jan 24 at 12:08

Issue with releasing after 2 years is only drop in the ocean... Next who didnt see overall situation and what it causing. Yes, he could upload it in other place, but its not a reason to use this fact against overall community to support its small part and slow the rest.

"Especially when it's not their own map"

Yes, they shouldnt keep not their map for own purposes, ideology, ideas... Especially when they are "afk" all the time and after my messages talk to other dudes to keep their ideas and defend against simple facts. Thats funny you summarize it as positive - after 2 years map is ready to play, when was ready also 2 years before. I bet there are no problem if map will be uploaded after... 10 years? 20 years? If you count only final effect.
-Whitey-
USER: PENNYWISE

RampageRampage
Posted: Wed Jan 23 at 11:42

AAAAAA nobody gets this hurt over a map that was released 2 years late. Especially when it's not their own map.
I for one have had Roel many times (and other mappers) give constructive input into my maps to fix them or have better flow before they go to the community.
Also it is not Roels job to play fixer upper of maps. He doesn't have to test maps for people. But thank god he does otherwise the i4g servers would be filled with buggy shortcut riddled maps.
Giorgio could have uploaded it to the forums, to another mod or to a completely different website. He could have contacted Roel aswell.
Irrelevant of whether BT is dead or not, you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Theres no real issue here. The maps has been fixed and uploaded.
Well done Roel.

Giorgio i haven't played your maps yet, but i will be downloading the newer ones soon. Will Edit with what i think. good job on still making maps.
AAAAAAA
USER: AAAAAAA

SpectatorSpectator
Posted: Mon Jan 14 at 23:45

Cant understand first, so lets switch to later offtopic in one word. My answer is nope - It is too general problem and all interested in BT should be engaged in it. So in your meaning you're building BT? It's just destroying. Delaying 2 years with release map is keeping BT alive or destroying? Decision about hold this map for 2 years, instead of give to community and fix it faster is building BT or destroying? Can't also understand mentality of BT players. Are they blinded by past or fear or friend zone or something else reason? Is it good to release map to only one source? I cant also understand your stubbornness. Maybe you dont know, but this website exert the biggest impact around engaged players, so this is reason why I am writing here. About "oldschoolers", its not just create BT in past, they also should try in any best way keep it alive. Now its just abandoned and there's no need to say different. Nobody try to keep it in good condition. Your statement is to deep it. No comprehension, deny facts, etc, overall, cause slow destroy BT in this game.
P.E.R.N
USER: PERN

i4Games Admini4Games Admin
Posted: Mon Jan 14 at 16:25

No Venox, you werent banned, only your multi acc are killed like we do with all our member.

I strongly suggest you to keep your hate and stay outside from i4g. After blaming Roel, now you blame me to kill a bit BT.
ofc you could have pm Roel in first but you prefer to attack us in public. Cool that at least this time you didnt use Pawel to post some bashing on Roel like you did previously.

You are active, thats good, i respect that, but as you feel a bit lonely, you blame us. Too bad you dont respect the work done be the "oldschooler", your choice np.
AAAAAAA
USER: AAAAAAA

SpectatorSpectator
Posted: Mon Jan 14 at 15:23

Very bad move from your side. Banning as way to stop accusations directed to you? Its not problem to create new account, and again, and again. GTFO, according only to message, have you readed all the messages? You (as overall) didnt upload map for two years! Your activities (better word: NO ACTIVITIES) caused partially stop growth this gamemode and you perfectly know that. Furthermore, your no activity caused to quit most players from gamemode. Somebody must say STOP and state objection about it. As i said before, its not problem if maps or other creations aren't here, no problem, but please stop blocking growth of this gamemode as overall! Please stop use mapper's unawareness to developing only this server, if you dont have time, send the map to community and community will fix it faster. I bet, according to this map, that this map could be available 2 years before, ready to play, when there were more players than now. Its not hard to say sorry and try find solution.
P.E.R.N
USER: PERN

i4Games Admini4Games Admin
Posted: Mon Jan 14 at 03:00

i4g HATER DETECTED .....

Sometime we have a server headleader who attack us, it's like that, it's life, even if i4g never attacked other servers, never went to any different forum to offend them.

In some period we missed some maps because some mappers werent sendind them to us. We didnt blame anyone for that. A day or later we uploaded them.
AAAAAA
USER: AAAAAA

SpectatorSpectator
Posted: Fri Jan 11 at 00:29

So should I be nice to him and other "engaged" (bad word for current times) due to past? Dont know facts about past, I reckon up actual times. Actual times in one word are mockery. Why you speaking to me if you arent target side? He called for help due to no counterargumentes? I saw him yesterday, then log off, still no answer, so I can speculate that you are "help person". FUNNY
Bloeb
USER: BLOEB

RampageRampage
Posted: Thu Jan 10 at 16:49

AAAAAA, you're giving Roel an undeserved amount of flak. His involvement in this community has been nothing short of exemplary. He has been more than generous in helping mappers test, fix and release their maps. Perhaps it's unfortunate the map wasn't released earlier, but GiorgiO could have contacted Roel again. Also, he could have released the map on the forum or to different people outside of i4games.

On a sidenote; I wish BT was more active too, but please let's not declare it dead when some players still play occasionally (even if it's offline).

Thumbs up for GiorgiO still making maps.[/img]
AAAAAA
USER: AAAAAA

SpectatorSpectator
Posted: Wed Jan 09 at 23:22

All people have their own life, problems etc.

"You're implying I am hiding maps on purpose, which is just complete nonsense"

So how can I name a person who carrying somebody map for 2 years? Did you know that most mappers here can't see "other world"? I hope you know this fact. So if yes, why you use this fact to block growth BT? Who will release map, when blinked mapper sent map to only one person and this person didn't release it in time? Its really irresponsible.

"It perhaps so happens that mappers use an upload to the i4g servers as the (only) tool to release maps to the public"

Thats it. I bet you know that and use it against development this gamemode.

"I simply do not have the time to test the maps"

So why you are "involved" in this task, if haven't time? Not better to upload original maps to internet, give links and community will fix it faster than you? I bet this map, like others, could be available 2 years ago if community get maps in its hands. You block development of this gamemode.

"Maps still may need to be fixed after upload"

Good quality of your work, ironying... So you need 2 years to release map which still need to be fixed. Oh, sorry, this map "BT-RoomCastle" needn't any fixes, just upload.

"There are plenty of other ways to release a map"

Beautiful in theory, but look above ("Who will release map, when blinked mapper [...])

"AFAIK as long as BT-servers (also outside of i4g) are online and people occasionally play BT is not dead."

Hahaha. Good prank. You understand "not dead" (here!) as empty servers, no activity, technical problems which will never fixed? In fact other servers arent better. BT is dead for years.

"If a map is then forever lost then it was irresponsible of the original mapper not keeping backups."

If mapper entrust you to upload map, the role of mapper end. Now in your responsibility is upload map on time, not mapper's. Especially when mapper didnt see any other forums or servers. I understand personal difficulties, but it really took 2 years? Community also can fix and release map. You aren't holy wizard. Other people also can fix and release maps. The worst is block this possibility.

"That's again implying I am hiding maps on purpose, which is simply not true."

Catching sarcasm is not your best skill. You are too focused on defend against simple facts.

You (as overall) shouldn't use fact about that many mappers send maps only here, not in other places. No problem if map isn't here, but you are blocking development of rest of BT scene. 2 years ago in BT was more players than now (now can count on 1 hand). Go ahead, do as always - NOTHING. For next 10 years!
RoelerCoaster
USER: MMI

i4Games Trusteei4Games Trustee
Posted: Wed Jan 09 at 21:08

TL;DR: I do this in my free time. I have a life outside of BT/i4g

@AAAAAA
According to this comment, is it normal to hide map to BT community and release it in too late future?

You're implying I am hiding maps on purpose, which is just complete nonsense. I manually test/verify every map that is sent to me for review to check for immediately obvious flaws. But I am not always able to do this immediately because:
a. I'm not on my own pc/on my phone/on my tablet
b. I have no time because I have a full-time job and a personal life outside of BT/i4g

In this case, I simply forgot Giorgio sent me the map, and besides, he never reminded me he sent me the map and that I hadn't uploaded it after that. I am human. I can forget things.

It is not your map, you are middleman who should only gave it to BT community as fast as it possible

This is just not how it works. First of all, I am not responsible for releasing maps to the community. I just upload maps to the i4g-servers. It perhaps so happens that mappers use an upload to the i4g servers as the (only) tool to release maps to the public, but that is not my problem. There are plenty of other ways to release a map, for example:

- Post a topic on the forum (i4g forum or some other community)
- There are other BT-Servers besides i4g
- Submit the map to some map-upload website

Secondly, I am not blindly uploading all the maps I receive. As I said before, I manually test each map before upload to detect any obvious flaws (Note the word OBVIOUS here. I simply do not have the time to test the maps to an extend to detect every possible flaw. Maps still may need to be fixed after upload). If any flaws are found the map is not uploaded. I always message the mapper about it, and then it is up to them to fix it. That does mean that sometimes maps never get fixed and uploaded, but that is not my problem.

when BT is dead in fact

AFAIK as long as BT-servers (also outside of i4g) are online and people occasionally play BT is not dead.

What could be when you, for example, could have computer damage or lost credentials? Other's creations will dissapear by your fuck irresponsibilty?

Again, keeping/storing other people's maps is not my responsibility. Mappers themselves are responsible for keeping/backing-up their own creations.
And yes, I may get a hardware-failure and lose all data on my PC. If a map is then forever lost then it was irresponsible of the original mapper not keeping backups.

How many maps have you hidden?

That's again implying I am hiding maps on purpose, which is simply not true.

On a final note, why this map is uploaded NOW: I have recently been playing BT a bit again after being inactive/semi-active because other things in life. Giorgio recently sent me a couple of maps for upload, which I reviewed, and while reviewing I stumbled across this map in my maps-folder. I noticed it was Giorgio's, so I asked if he was ok with uploading it as well, which he was.
shaihulud
USER: SHAIHULUD

Killing spreeKilling spree
Posted: Wed Jan 09 at 12:22

Thanks Roel
AAAAAA
USER: AAAAAA

SpectatorSpectator
Posted: Tue Jan 08 at 23:44

I cant understand, why nobody opponenting here about situation in BT. According to this comment, is it normal to hide map to BT community and release it in too late future? REALLY, 2 YEARS??? You should release it, when you received maps.... It is not your map, you are middleman who should only gave it to BT community as fast as it possible, not only to holy fanboys of this site and when BT is dead in fact, like this site and servers. What could be when you, for example, could have computer damage or lost credentials? Other's creations will dissapear by your fuck irresponsibilty? How many maps have you hidden? BTW overall situation arent better, technical problems, no admins and professional upgrades like PERN's team names in server status. Its a joke and unfortunetely some people accept that quality and conjuncture. BIG JOKE
RoelerCoaster
USER: MMI

i4Games Trusteei4Games Trustee
Posted: Sun Jan 06 at 19:50

This map is about 2 years old, but for some reason I never uploaded it. Better late then never I guess Smile