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pippy
USER: PIPPY

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 00:51    Post subject: To Cap Or Not To Cap :?
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Right...here goes..
I sometimes feel a bit miffed about how scores are added on here.
I mean we play CTF....and maybe u cap 8 flags and your score is shite.
But u camp and kill flag killers and your score ups a lot.Why....?

OK for DM, but waht about us poor flag carriers. CTF remember. Rolling Eyes

Feel sometimes that u may just as well play along with all the ass runners, and flag killers...if we all did that we would just be playing DM. Mad

Rant over ...what u think?


RumBleR
USER: RUMBLER

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 06:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

in the end caps matters Smile i play long enough to see the difference between real team players and lamers who plays for point only. And imo team players with low scores gains more respect as useless players who plays for points only

Hokage
USER: HOKAGE

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, this is something we can talk and can argue about for a long time. I too can see the difference between the players who want to cap and those who play for points only.
(i wouldnt name anyone cuz it can casue trouble).

i know that i sometimes defend and i understand that when i hit the same player 5 times in a row when he just took the flag he's pissed. i'm too, when i'm killed several times in a row by the same player. I prefer to cap bcs it gives you kind of an adrenaline. running with the flag while most of the other team is behind you Razz .
But first you have to make a difference between camping and defending (which is difficult to explain).

like i said, this can be a long discussion.


RumBleR
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

when someome is defending its quite clear to me he s defending. Defending can be frustrated idd (massdef) but its part of the game.

I play this game for 5 years now and it always been the same and imo will never change. There always be players playing as a 1 man army and players who take care of the team.


[i4g]Z
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hokage wrote:
i know that i sometimes defend and i understand that when i hit the same player 5 times in a row when he just took the flag he's pissed.


A good deffender will never let the enemey touch his flag... no wonder when thay're pissed when you shoot them just after they get the flag and that five times in a row... Razz Wink Wink


DanBennett
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

The UT scores shows your frag count basically right.

On The i4g server tho, we have the cap count so that will show whos best really...

Yea i know i talk bo****s


Hokage
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 13:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know the enemy cant touch flag. i'm more an attacker, so i know it's frustrating. But when you are trying to hit him and once he is at flag you still trying to hit him, but it's easier to hit bcs you can take the flag as reference.
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{lamb}GRiM`
USER: THEGRIMREAPER

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 22:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is so not an issue for me, i cap and kill a lot and get fantastic scores hehehehehehehehe ps shudnt u be playing for fun not scores Wink

[i4g]Medic
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 07:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking about making an alternative scoring method (like in SmartCTF) to cool down the points-whore a bit.

I'll check for the pros and cons before applying such a system though.


Hokage
USER: HOKAGE

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 09:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Medic wrote:
I was thinking about making an alternative scoring method (like in SmartCTF) to cool down the points-whore a bit.


What exactly is that? And what is it going to change so much for those who want to score points instead of cappping flags?

But of course there are always the defenders. What will they think about this? the REAL defenders (like they would do on wars) defend because they suck at infiltrating a base and grabbing and running with the flag till they cap. But the other type of defenders are just normal players who get killed too much so they start to defend that looks more like camping just to get hihg scores like they usually have.

That's what i think about defenders


EzWz
USER: EZWZ

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 00:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. pointwhores suck
2. Defending is done out in the open, not waiting while some1 passes you while your hiding and then shootin em in the back (camping, assrunning etc).
3. I defend because i suck at infiltrating, i'm not that nimble with my fingers (which is just a defect) therefore i defend primarily, cause my aim is still fine (at least when i play regularly enough)
4. CTF is a team efford, so giving more points to FC's is fine with me, but giving less to defenders is not fair imho.
5. Who's playing for points anyways???


pippy
USER: PIPPY

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 01:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't play for points, i play CTF because i like the game, being part of a team, rather than blowing heads off.

But i must say.. i tried camping on two maps last month.
It was abreeze, and i think the other was eternal blue.
Now i thought i'd see if my score improved for camping or flag carrier killing, AND BOY DID IT ...i got probably at least double my normal score. maybe even treble on Abreeze.

I find that people who defend flag camp backshooters whatever you call them are often good players and i wonder sometimes why they actuall do it.

Saying all this why should a flag camper be rewarded with better points than someone who maybe isn't that good at capturing flags....myself included, but constantly strives to help thier team win the game ?....if they think it's fun or not. Wink


Flamingo
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 09:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

doesnt matter what will be done,imo,cos in the end,the defenders will always take the crap. So much talk, and still,so much whining going on in the game,even from players that i count as regulars.

Like EzWz said,i rather defend,gotta be something worldwide,this physical defect..infects my BT playing aswell,i cant side dodge to the left cos of my left index finger wont let me Confused


But back to the discussion. Points,campers,assers etc..we have all been noobs in the beginning,and since we have a lot of new players on our servers lately, i believe some people tend to forget how they where themselves. I know i assed,camped,flamed and so on..it is a game,u get hotheaded,we all do, but MAN,its a game! As long as you ,yourself,try to play as fair as you can, i don't see why you should get so upset about the small things (that really indeed arent that small,thinking about it). We have the admins,who do a bloody good job, the trustees (me included,i am SOO good!)the channels on irc,(including the i4g.admins one where u can get help..how many of you have done that?)

Oh,and if you get really upset whilst playing,why don't you quit for the time being and do something else while you cool down? Go back to your life for a change,go outside,spring is here!,talk to your family..etc. Nah,seriously,this is a game.Relax.Enjoy.

There will always be certain people out there who will take the fun out of the game,just as there is people out there who sometimes take the fun out of life. Deal with it.Live with it.


And now,i think im gonna go outside,sun is shining and the kids are laughing. What else can be better?


[i4g]Z
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 09:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flamingo wrote:

And now,i think im gonna go outside,sun is shining and the kids are laughing. What else can be better?


sex?

Mr. Green


Flamingo
USER: FLAMINGO

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 09:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i finally try to be serious,comes the z and ruins it.. Evil or Very Mad


sex you say..nah,what for,its sweaty,sticky,timeabsorbing (unless your in for the quickies) and all it makes me think of is laundry,dinner and what time to pick up junior Twisted Evil


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