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 SytesTyun
USER: SYTESTYUN
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 Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 18:53 Post subject: Server rules
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I'm not sure whether to post it here or in discuss... I just post it here now.
This is mainly a question to the i4games admins as it's a question, or better some, about the rules. Might be annoying but I want to know as I'm often called things for no reason. And I don't want to make those ppl angry or do them bad, so no names.
1. When is camping camping? eg in Bedrooms if I'm near the flag walking up there and checking the window, the wall and the door, is that camping? Can I camp in the enemies base by waiting at the flag? Or if I hide somewhere as the flag isn't there and the EFC not (yet) around, is that camping?
2. Is it camping if I know where the EFC will come along and wait for him to pass?
3. When do I assrun? If I follow him around a corner? Or if I'm really following him?
4. Is it okay to assrun an assrunner? [Asking because I was assrun as I assran (followed someone one step) and then being called a assrunner by that person casing me]
5. Because someone said that: Is spawnkilling in wootabulous allowed?
6. Vengeance relic: May I suicide in order to kill the EFC? I mean, it's not about points... I'd suicide as often so I get -1 point in the end if it's about that point thing, but may I to stop him?
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 JesseLacey
USER: JESSELACEY
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 18:57 Post subject: |
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All I know about the bomb is that you can only suicide with the bomb to protect your flagcarrier. It's really lame just to bunnyhop into the enemy base and suicide with the bomb.
As for assrunning, thats something I wanted to ask the Admins actually. I'm tired of being called an assrunner actually. All I do is turn around when an enemy passes me (when they're on the way to my base). I don't run after anyone :\...yet I'm still called an assrunner? Why doesn't anybody look behind them when they pass an enemy???
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 Alchemist
USER: ALCHEMIST
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 19:02 Post subject: |
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some people on the ictf sever need to learn the rules of ctf
Mrb said i was capping in the enemeny base.
capping is when you stay in the same place for a long time.
Ass run is when u follow some 1 all the way trying to kill them... not if your enemeny runs pass you and you turn around to kill them.
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SytesTyun
USER: SYTESTYUN
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 19:03 Post subject: |
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Jesse, I wasn't talking about senseless killing enemies but their flag carrier... That's my point.
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JesseLacey
USER: JESSELACEY
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 19:04 Post subject: |
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Yeah well maybe people are calling me an assrunner because they're too busy with their back turned to realise that I'm not running after them! 
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JesseLacey
USER: JESSELACEY
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 19:05 Post subject: |
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| SytesTyun wrote: | | Jesse, I wasn't talking about senseless killing enemies but their flag carrier... That's my point. |
There's no such thing as assrunning the EFC imo. If you have the flag you better f*cking run and I'm going to try and kill you by any means possible. It's up to your team to defend their FC
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SytesTyun
USER: SYTESTYUN
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 19:07 Post subject: |
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lol you don't get what I'm trying to say:
May you suicide with the relic to kill the EFC? That was my question. Not whether you may kill your enemy for points or may assrun the FC 
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JesseLacey
USER: JESSELACEY
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 19:11 Post subject: |
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| JesseLacey wrote: | | All I know about the bomb is that you can only suicide with the bomb to protect your flagcarrier. It's really lame just to bunnyhop into the enemy base and suicide with the bomb. |
No you may not  Otherwise you'll have me to deal with
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 DanBennett
USER: DANOMANUK
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 19:29 Post subject: Re: Server rules
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1. When is camping camping? eg in Bedrooms if I'm near the flag walking up there and checking the window, the wall and the door, is that camping? Can I camp in the enemies base by waiting at the flag? Or if I hide somewhere as the flag isn't there and the EFC not (yet) around, is that camping? |
Sitting at your enemy's flag, killing your enemy as they spawn is imo indeed Camping, and spawn killing.
If you hide and camp for the flag carrier it is lame a bit, but not against the rules i don't think. But i personally don't like people doing this as it just ruins the fun of the game. Any type of camping should not be done because it ruins the game.
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2. Is it camping if I know where the EFC will come along and wait for him to pass? |
in my opinion, if you are, for example, on eternal caves camping on the ledge looking down, waiting for the flag carrier to come along and you shoot him without a challange then yes indeed that is camping.
If however, you jump down and challenge the flag carrier, that is not camping. But use wisely.
| Quote: | | 3. When do I assrun? If I follow him around a corner? Or if I'm really following him? |
If you follow someone as they pass you either being from their base back to yours, or following them in-between that is indeed assing. If you turn around, still going the way your going, and you shoot them then that is not assing. But if you try too much then it is seen as assing, so be carefull when you do this. For example on Diamond Sword. At the bottom of the map people turn around going backwards and shooting forwards towards their base to any enemies. If they do this alot in one time that imo is assing, unless the other person is challenging and shooting back. If not then i'd say give up and carry on going the way you are not shooting him/her.
| Quote: | | 4. Is it okay to assrun an assrunner? [Asking because I was assrun as I assran (followed someone one step) and then being called a assrunner by that person casing me] |
If you assrun then don't. Its agaisnt the rules. If someone does it back to you then it is their fault, and if caught they are up for warning too. Simple. Do not ass! http://i4games.eu/rules.php.
| Quote: | | 5. Because someone said that: Is spawnkilling in wootabulous allowed? |
No spawn killing is allowed. on "DM Maps" like w00t there is alot of spawn killing, mostly this is purposly (sadly). Sometimes it is possible on these type of maps to be "Spawn killed" accidently. In which case the player who did spawnkill should say sorry. But no, Spawn-killing is not allowed.
| Quote: | | 6. Vengeance relic: May I suicide in order to kill the EFC? I mean, it's not about points... I'd suicide as often so I get -1 point in the end if it's about that point thing, but may I to stop him? |
Suiciding with relic, except to boost your OWN FC is not allowed. If you do you get warned as it is against the rules. If you do it to get the flag back, that is seen as lame. So do not suicide.
However, being in the base with the relic is not allowed, So just challenge the defenders of the flag carrier. When you get shot if the EFC is unfortunate to be in range of the blast, he/she will indeed be killed. If you just stand there to get killed that is lame. So challenge them. Its even lamer when there is no FC/EFC and you just let them kill you. So don't.
Hope this helps.
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 [i4g]Vainkeygirl
USER: VAINKEYGIRL
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 20:23 Post subject: |
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i don't have anything to at at this moment. gj dannie
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SytesTyun
USER: SYTESTYUN
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 22:23 Post subject: Re: Server rules
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| DanomanUK wrote: |
Sitting at your enemy's flag, killing your enemy as they spawn (1) is imo indeed Camping, and spawn killing. (...) But i personally (2) don't like people doing this as it just ruins the fun of the game. Any type of camping should not be done because it ruins the game.
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1st: I asked how it is waiting there, not spawnkilling. As spawnkilling itself is forbidden, it won't be allowed.
2nd: I didn't ask for any opinions. I mean, ain't it lame if someone is as good as hitting someone no matter where he stands? Shouldn't they be forbidden?
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What do you mean? Shall I 'camp' from time to time? Or what do you want to say by that?
| DanomanUK wrote: | Suiciding with relic, except to boost your OWN FC (1) is not allowed. If you do you get warned as it is against the rules (2). If you do it to get the flag back, that is seen as lame (3). So do not suicide.
However, being in the base with the relic is not allowed (4), So just challenge the defenders of the flag carrier. When you get shot if the EFC is unfortunate to be in range of the blast (5), he/she will indeed be killed. If you just stand there to get killed that is lame (6). So challenge them. Its even lamer when there is no FC/EFC and you just let them kill you (7). So don't.
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1st: I may boost AND protect my FC...
2nd: I know I get warned if I act against the rules... That's the reason why I made this topic: I often got warned for no reason.
3rd: About laming: see above.
4th: Being with speed relic in base is forbidden, but no rule forbids to stay with the revenge relic.
5th: That's the point of the revenge relic: If you die, you kill those around you. It's not my fault where I'm killed.
6th: Why? He could notice it and not be as stupid as shooting at me. Could also be a tactic to confuse him and make him uncertain. Why is that lame? I think it's clever.
7th: Like mentioned in another post, that was never the question. It was about EFC only. Nothing else...
But thanks about it anyway.
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 foobarbaz
USER: FOOBARBAZ
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| Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 05:36 Post subject: |
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| JesseLacey wrote: | | Why doesn't anybody look behind them when they pass an enemy??? |
Because it is not the objective of the game.
I do not understand why ppl pass by , turn around and kill me.(In the middle of the map).
They see me from my back side and kill me, i consider that as laming.
(Except anyone near carries a flag)
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 Mentor
USER: MENTOR
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| Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 06:14 Post subject: |
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| JesseLacey wrote: | | Why doesn't anybody look behind them when they pass an enemy??? |
Because if they do, and they kill you, they have to kill you again when entering the enemy base.
Less change to take the flag.
It's a useless frag anyway.
For the rest I think Dano merely explained it all correct.
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DanBennett
USER: DANOMANUK
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 08:51 Post subject: Re: Server rules
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| SytesTyun wrote: |
1st: I asked how it is waiting there, not spawnkilling. As spawnkilling itself is forbidden, it won't be allowed. |
Yes but i thought that i should explain other ways of camping. I don't see why you moan at me for answering more than your question, as it can help others.
| Quote: | | 2nd: I didn't ask for any opinions. I mean, ain't it lame if someone is as good as hitting someone no matter where he stands? Shouldn't they be forbidden? |
No you didn't. But I explaind the rules as i understand them in my opinion on how you should go around these rules. If someone has anything against what they said, by all means, post their opinions. We all want better gameplay, Not silly idiots who lame, camp ass  .
And sorry, i don't know what you mean by that bit.
| Quote: | | DanomanUK wrote: |
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What do you mean? Shall I 'camp' from time to time? Or what do you want to say by that? |
I mean be carefull of when you do this, imo only use it to get your flag back. But make sure you do challenge them, not camp in your little tent
| DanomanUK wrote: | Suiciding with relic, except to boost your OWN FC (1) is not allowed. If you do you get warned as it is against the rules (2). If you do it to get the flag back, that is seen as lame (3). So do not suicide.
However, being in the base with the relic is not allowed (4), So just challenge the defenders of the flag carrier. When you get shot if the EFC is unfortunate to be in range of the blast (5), he/she will indeed be killed. If you just stand there to get killed that is lame (6). So challenge them. Its even lamer when there is no FC/EFC and you just let them kill you (7). So don't.
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| Quote: | | 1st: I may boost AND protect my FC... |
hence why i said "Except to boost your OWN fc". That means to your base, or close to wherever he/she is going.
| Quote: | | 2nd: I know I get warned if I act against the rules... That's the reason why I made this topic: I often got warned for no reason. |
I don't want to turn this into a flaming topic where we say "You did this, you did that". If you think that someone has acused you of something and you dis-aggree, Tell them to watch the demo, and tell yourself to watch the demo. IF still arguments i'm sure a trustee can help to releive the arguments by themselves looking at it. (Sorry:P Making more work for them now lol)
| Quote: | | 3rd: About laming: see above. |
How far above?
| Quote: | | 4th: Being with speed relic in base is forbidden, but no rule forbids to stay with the revenge relic. |
After just reading the rules page again I notice that yes this is the case, But it should read not to use it or defend in your base with it EXCEPT you are with the flag carrier and THEY shoot you. Again you have to make sure you don't purposly try to get shot, as that is Laming. So you challenge them! Duh.
| Quote: | | 5th: That's the point of the revenge relic: If you die, you kill those around you. It's not my fault where I'm killed. |
No its not, for example if i am in my base attacking the enemy who are in my base, and suddenly a Revenge or Speed relic spawns up in the area i am whilst attacking the enemy, I will pick that up. I know that doing that goes against the rules in using them, But you have to defend your base aswell. So if you are still challenging them then fine, GOod luck and kill the bastards, if you get shot then yes, the revenge relic will go off. Some people do not like others doing this, so the other option is to leave them and carry on to their base, or to leave the relics alone and carry on killing them. Yes one of them are better, Unless ofcorse, the EFC is in the base with you.
| Quote: | | 6th: Why? He could notice it and not be as stupid as shooting at me. Could also be a tactic to confuse him and make him uncertain. Why is that lame? I think it's clever. |
No, its not. If you stand their to get purposly killed with the relic that is not clever its lame. As i've said, if you have the revenge relic keep chalanging, You learn more in shooting them yourselves than standing there to get killed just so the bomb will go off. That is indeed lame.
| Quote: | | 7th: Like mentioned in another post, that was never the question. It was about EFC only. Nothing else... |
There we are again, you don't like me taking things a step further explaining it more :s Why?
I've explained things more and as the best i can to help, not just you, but everyone who has questions about the rules. And they are all open for question.
| Quote: | | But thanks about it anyway. |
No Problem.
Any questions class? lol
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 Roko
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