Nuclear Suicide

JohhnyHandsome · Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:32 Post subject: Nuclear Suicide

On some games I have noticed a few players Suicide with the Nuclear Relic to assist their team.

Is this lame ?

You could argue that it is due to the simple fact it acts as a boost to the flag carrier whilst crippling defenders chasing.

Or is it an acceptable tactic?

Lardass · Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:49 Post subject:

I've never done it myself (suicide on purpose) but if I see a team mate die and he has the vengeance I always try to jump so I can ride the wave. D-Day is a good map for that, I once got blown up into the opposing teams hut from about half-way, sneaky way to the flag Smile

If I have vengeance relic and I'm covering the FC I try and put myself between the chasers and FC more than normal, but in terms of suicide binds, probably wouldn't do that.

Spider · Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:56 Post subject:

Don 't like it at all Evil or Very Mad

SPeeD2 · Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:01 Post subject:

Suicide with bomb is VERY LAME, and our rules say the same :

Do not spoil the fun
Repetitive (flag / lift) camping, assrunning, respawn killing, lift triggering, --->suicide commiting <<--- as well as spamming (taunt or text), ignoring a team-balancing request (5 vs 7 for instance) and anything
Exclamation

http://www.i4games.eu/rules.php Exclamation

parazyte · Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 13:10 Post subject:

Guys, cool it down.

I do nuclear suicides (congrats for coining a new term Johhny! Very Happy

) and I don't regard them either lame or cool. I just accept them as I accept relics in general. Since i4Games include relics, I guess you have to accept the nuclear suicides tactics as well...

But, I could go a step further and call all speed-caps lame as well. I mean, only solution to stop ppl doing nuclear suicides is to remove the vengeance relic from the game - and why is speed-caps cool while vengeance-caps aren't?

PS: I'd be happy to see relics removed from the game to allow for more skill and less speedy bunny/nuclear blasts, but I'm cool with it too.... It enhances the dimension of luck to the game Wink

EDIT:
Hey wait a sec, suicides are illegal? Ouch, maybe I should read the rules harder.

aNGeLKiLLeR · Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 14:19 Post subject:

I do it all the time but that isnt the issue tbh, once u pick up a relic u see everyone assrun u anywayz =) so whats to gain than suiciding early before they follwoung u back to their own base.
PPL with vengence mod usually deathmatch and not take flag anywayz

Maiden · Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 14:25 Post subject:

This could be opening a can of worms...

I suicide when I see the vengeance relic go off and know I am gonna get caught in the blast because it allows me to spawn quicker.

I also suicide when I am about to fall into lava/acid etc.

I also suicide to try and get a better spawn point if they have the flag.

I also suicide sometimes when I have the relic to assist my team but never just for the frag count.

I do the 1st sometimes, the 2nd many many times Rolling Eyes

, the 3rd at least once a game (depending on map) and the 4th very occasionally.

Do all these count as repetitive suicide commiting and against the rules??

parazyte · Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 14:32 Post subject:

I agree, I always suicide like 20 times on eternal caves every time I spawn inside red cave/blue cave when the blue enemies/red enemies have our flag.

I also suicide so when I know I'm gonna get killed by the vengeance relic so the person who dies wont get the satisfaction of killing me Wink

(and/or ending my spree and/or a monster kill of his own).

I also suicide when I fall into space or lava. Why wait?

---> Maiden's post goes for me too.

I don't see why in these cases it would be illegal to commit suicide and how it would spoil the fun for other people.

Master · Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 14:36 Post subject:

Suicide isn't illegal. Repetitive suicide is according to the rules.

The power of relics on the i4games server is high. But the power also consits on how u use the relic. In general i think boosting efc with a "boom" is a honourable thing. Making a difference but less honourable is killing enemies while doing it. To kill as much people as possible just for the sake of killing them i consider indeed lame and not contributing to the gameplay. This also means if one of them is EFC.

My opinion Cool

[i4g]Z · Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 14:38 Post subject:

No, it's not lame, it's just team tactics.
I myself never use it, but thats prolly only because I have no suicide command placed on my keyboard... I'm not much of a suicide tactition, but if the relic is there, then it's there to use... You don't want people using it that way, then get rid of it.

Astaroth · Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 15:01 Post subject:

I think that suicide with or without relic is really lame.

With relic peppes who go in middle of ennemi team just to frag a lot with vengeance relic . Shocked

I war players who suicide to come back in their base when their flag is take. i'm really bored of getting 5 players against me when i've the flag because they all suicide to assrun FC. That suck. Evil or Very Mad

parazyte · Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 17:14 Post subject:

I think it's different to assrun EFC than just assrunning for frags though.

One point of the game is to cap and another is to make the opponent team not cap. If there is an EFC then you must destroy him and return the flag!
Myself, I can't have it to see the EFC run past me and think: "Hello, I can't follow and shoot him, because I would be a lame assrunner!". No, I chase him and try my best shooting him, and most FC's expects that you do and they are prepared (they don't turn their back to you). I mean when I am carrying flag I know all 7 players in the other team all want to shoot me.

BUT assrunning ppl who don't have flag is so lame and everyone who does it should feel a bit ashamed, even if they are "defenders". This is the case often at NIVEN when you always have a pack of 3 players chasing you as you try to get all the way inside enemy base... But that map sucks imho so I don't play it.

VTe · Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 18:00 Post subject:

I think it's really lame..

Like the name states, it's a vengence relic. Which means that you can use it to kill the one that killed you. Using it to wipe out all the ppl that chase your FC is the easiest way to win. If you're a real man/woman, defend your FC with your rifle and not with lame moves..

My 2 cents..

parazyte · Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 18:12 Post subject:

idd, but then again relics are lame in themselves Wink

Lardass · Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 18:31 Post subject:

how about a plain ole relic poll?

should they stay or does everyone want rid?

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