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 ShozzA
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 Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 20:03 Post subject: |
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pmsl asif u needed the internet to tell u all his songs r just copies, i knew from a few songs my bro listens to he is proper GASH and always repeats DJ RANKIN IN THE MIX MOFO which is stupid but anywayz hf 
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 nierd_2
USER: METOCH
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 20:55 Post subject: |
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ALL new songs that come out and reach the top of the charts are sped up versions. didn't you kno that? ;E it's not only dj rankin , if it is true in the first place
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 [i4g]haggis
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 21:39 Post subject: |
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Dj ranking sucks he take a good tune and then ruins it by adding some shit that aint same beat or nuthing.
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 DanBennett
USER: DANOMANUK
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 22:48 Post subject: |
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| Fuers wrote: | what kind of music has dj rankin  house,trance,techno,... |
None... because they arnt his 
| Metoch wrote: |
ALL new songs that come out and reach the top of the charts are sped up versions. didn't you kno that? ;E it's not only dj rankin , if it is true in the first place |
There is a difference between the "Pro's" and Rankin.
For Example, There is a new remix of a song out or coming out which is quite an old song. The difference is that this sounds good.
As explained in the video. Rankin can't even align the beats correctly. He adds needless shit on it and, to put it blunt, fucks up a good song.
Another difference. The real remixers are doing it legal (Hixxy, Scott Brown, Ultrabeat*....)
*Ultrabeat is an example of not just remixing, but also changing the lyrics and some of the melody so that it sounds how he wants it, still keeping it reconizable of the original . E.g. His new upcoming single
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DanBennett
USER: DANOMANUK
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| Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 22:54 Post subject: |
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Ok apparently i'm a fake aswell... LMFAO!
Ok well i dunno if some of you know. But yes i used to do lil remixes, but for myself to learn it myself really. That was.. donkeys ago.
Right now i am working on doing my own work.
If i do use another persons melody, i do try to make moderation to it where possible. e.g. in my recent one, Black Magic (With my mate). We have made it actually sound trancy, and no where near the original track (Darren Syles - Black Magic)... and yes, not sound as good. But its a start.
When working on my own i try my best from what i get in my head. Maybe sometimes a tune sounds a little like something else, Which isnt particually meant but when you have so many tunez in your head its hard to keep track.
I have an upcoming called Unicify, This i have (tried) To create as my own, using as much moderation to the melody as i can, still working on it.
I'm also, once again, going to work on a remix of Trance Atlantic - Recitfied Rainbow (see http://ta-tunes.com). This is by a lil thing called PERMISSION!!! :O:O:O!
Because they are like me, but much hoffing better, i am able to contact them, and i can get permission and accapellas to make my own remixes. I just gotta find my imagination for it.
Any Questions?
P.S. http://soundclick.com/djbennett has some of my shit tries, including black magic.
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 missy
USER: MISSY
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 12:12 Post subject: |
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99% of DJ,s are crap just ripping off someone elses music add a few beats and then kids go out and buy it. you gotta laugh easy way to make money i suppose (Nice find though MrAtsmA) made me laugh 
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 IxIGavJayIxI
USER: GAVINATOR
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 12:37 Post subject: |
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| missy wrote: | | 99% of DJ,s are crap just ripping off someone elses music add a few beats and then kids go out and buy it. you gotta laugh easy way to make money i suppose (Nice find though MrAtsmA) made me laugh |
not exactly.... take Umek... Tiesto... they take callsical songs ( adigo 8 for string by tiesto ) they create up thier own beats in everything.. with programmes such as reason ( pwnz ) but yeah... DJ rankin.. probably did not have any permission what so ever... unlike umek tiesto DiD get permission unlike rankin <-- who sucks
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 [i4g]Medic
USER: MEDIC
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 13:27 Post subject: Re: DJ Rankin - The Truth!
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Can't really avoid the "No shit Sherlock?" here.
For me, all those self-called producers with a nick starting by "DJ" go in the same basket.
It's really sad that more than 95% of today's music consumers have absolutely no music knowledge - and so have no critical view on what's being done today.
Most of what you hear in clubs is recycled music. And it can even be a remix of a remix sometimes.
I've been "immersed" into music since I can walk. I've listened a lot and have had quite a few contacts with real musicians. So it makes me sad to hear what's currently being done (mostly, not everything of course) and the fact that most people can't judge the real worth (or lack of worth that is) of it.
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 Mentor
USER: MENTOR
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 13:53 Post subject: |
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true medic.
It's how they say: Feed the plebs what the plebs wants...
I think in music style, the world has reached its deepest point with all zombie-like creatures, walking in rows like lemmings, just knodding their heads if others knod (who actually know shit about the music themselves). The prejudgements have become the worst ever. Classical is taboo, fagot-like, but some piss-kis-rapist that uses Barber's Adagio for strings with a beat, raping the whole concept of the 'ADAGIO' is 'so hot' and 'so cool'. I can understand that some ppl that didn't have any musical education don't see the essence of the music, but I simply can't accept the fact that they won't shut the hoff up if they don't know what they're talking about, influencing the even weaker minds with their mambo jambo talk that's full of shit.
Real music, real talent gets no chance. A renowned musical chamber orchestra, consisting of Belgium's finest musicians, each having a more than 20 year musical-experience, the 'top' of Europe in it's kind, the only one that's competitive on the world scale get's unbound because they have cut in government support. Instead of that some 'Kate Ryan'bitch gets 60.000 euro to wave her ass on every beach in Europe, just to get a good name, because people only vote on heads and names, not on real music, to see in the end that she even forgot a simple dance of 3 minutes and didn't make it through the first round. ALL SHE HAD TO DO WAS ONE 3 minute song! Some need to play 4-5 hours concentrated.
No, the only music that's good is the music that everyone can make, like I make 1000 songs a day, the one where you don't have to study 20 years to be able to do it, the one that's so easily understood that no effort has to be made, since the ppl of nowadays have become SO lazy that they simply won't put any effort in learning new things that you can't learn from the internet.
Just pathetic!!
70-80's all the way !! From then on only downwards.
One-Big-Frustrated-Mentor
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 cN|iNFiN1TY-
USER: EDICIUS
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 14:13 Post subject: |
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my guitars make music yo
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 Sprainy
USER: BARBERA
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 14:18 Post subject: |
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| Edicius wrote: | | my guitars make music yo |
loooool, really good music:P or just some shitty music?? 
anyway i only listen to DjBeNNeTT and no other dj's needed:P i have enough songs thaty aint remixed etc and they are oki for me 2
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 PukkY
USER: PUKKY
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 14:23 Post subject: |
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im a DJ :>, and ive made a total of,,, ==> 2 <== tracks, (im not good at it) im more the 'play DJ on partys' DJ
btw, Benny Benassi - Satisfaction (HARD Mix) is the best shit ive made, (didnt take the track and added sucky beat, i made a hardcore track and used the satisfatcion melody..
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DanBennett
USER: DANOMANUK
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 14:33 Post subject: |
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Amen! lmao.
There are alot of different views on what is music.
Medic, you can't say that everyone who starts their name with DJ are in the same basket. I'm not! I get my name because, well, its my name and all i can think of
Anyway.
I see your point there Mentor, that people, like yourself maybe?, practise and practise for hours and hours.
You gave Kate Ryan as an example, Which yes, ok... But she does also practise in making her songs, as shit as they may be
As for my type of music (dance, hardcore blah blah) Yes, Some of the commercial stuff are remixes of old songs, very old. As an example i gave before, there is a new track coming out which is a remix of a 70's song.
The thing is with these type of remixing is that they actually try. Like myself, ScottDevotion, Eyeopener..... THey all try to make something sound better than it is and they do actually work bloody hard in doing that, Fail or Win, they do it.
From what i have heard, Dj Tiesto did not like the original old Adagio for Strings, and he decided to make it into a nice trance track, which imo it has worked well. But he has not failed in saying what the original is.
Also, He dosnt just do remixing, he also does his own stuff, infact, all Producers in Dance/hardcore/trance do (or try) their own tracks aswell from their own head.
I know that personal views come in in saying "Yeh, thats piss easy tho, blah blah, they can do that without even trying all they do is shove some notes together and hope it sounds good so they get money." Wrong, Only i do that at the moment But i have a reason behind the way i try to do my tracks.
The Producers have the techy stuff, |Synths, keyboards, amps, big fucker things with loads of knobs... and they try, from their heads, and very hard, on the melody and structure.
| Mentor wrote: | | Real music, real talent gets no chance. |
This all depends on what you see as real music.
Yes, Most stuff that are on the top of charts these days are either R&B, Rap, Dance or Pop. This is because they do not allow realy long songs to be aired on radio or commercial music TV channels, and also the fact that kids my age prefer this type of stuff than the CLassical or Jazz, Or if some do they shut up about it because they can get bullied. And yes tahts very true .
| Quote: | | since the ppl of nowadays have become SO lazy that they simply won't put any effort in learning new things that you can't learn from the internet. |
That hurt 
To be fair, its all your personal opinion. and these are mine. We all know that you have a talant, most of us have seen that.
I'm going to go back to me now. Again, i'm so lazy i don't put any effort in. Then again, read up to what i said earlier.
As for learning new things, I like to learn new things all the time. At the moment, i am very broke. I'm getting all the practise i can with myself on programs and making my own tunez on the computer. Yes ok maybe this isnt the way to go, But it still helps me learn on what to do, how to do things ,for when i finally do get the real equipment.
I like to learn anything new if it involves my type of music that i love. Why would i want to learn how to play Metal if i'm never ever going to want to play it myself and typically dispise it? "ohh, If i pluck all the strings on this ellecy guitar it make a really loud noise that no one can hear if its even a note... lets ues it" (Thats my opinion on it, don't be nasty to me;)
| missy wrote: | | you gotta laugh easy way to make money i suppose |
Again. THis all depends on what the customers want. If it is liked they make money, if not then they will keep trying.
Not everyone does it for money, They do it for the enjoyment and the feeling.
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IxIGavJayIxI
USER: GAVINATOR
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 14:46 Post subject: |
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missy wrote:
you gotta laugh easy way to make money i suppose
Again. This all depends on what the customers want. If it is liked they make money, if not then they will keep trying.
Not everyone does it for money, They do it for the enjoyment and the feeling.
I agree with you there.... after the 10 mins of reading.. not everybody does it for money <-- true.. although they would like it if possible
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Mentor
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 14:52 Post subject: |
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| DanomanUK wrote: | | You gave Kate Ryan as an example, Which yes, ok... But she does also practise in making her songs, as shit as they may be |
Thats just what's my point. She doesn't MAKE her own songs. She just memorises them and takes the credit for it, because the one that actually MAKES the music doesn't have such a pretty face to be able to sell as much as Kate Ryan does. That's what bothers me. Actually she takes the credit for someone else's work. Do you know who wrote the song? I don't think 0.5% of the ppl know it. --> give the credit to the one that deserves it imo.
If an orchestra plays an opera of for example Mozart, who gets in the picture the most? Who's name will you remember most? Mozart, or the orchestra? I leave the benefit to the doubt and say that both get equal credit out of it.
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I'm going to go back to me now. Again, i'm so lazy i don't put any effort in. Then again, read up to what i said earlier.
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I didn't say you were lazy, and I didn't say all DJ music is lazy music. But just think about this: how come some 'unknown' DJ gets one hit, and immediately after, he scores a second hit with 'almost exactly the same tune, with the same samples, the same instrument mixes, only another title and slightly other beats. He just makes it almost the same because he'll be sure it's a commercial hit. Indeed, he put much effort in making that one hit (probably), but from than on, ppl take it much too easily.
Don't know if someone knows Vannessa Mae (the beautiful girl that plays all trendy melodies on her white violin).
Did you know that she actually playbacks the music? I met the man that plays them on tape. He plays them 'on keyboards'. Now that's pathetic to me.
That you mix some tunes to make a nice hobby is just the same as myself playing my sax to make some cool sounds. After all, I use music of others as well. But to be so selfish to make a living out of other's work, that strides with all my ethic principles.
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