medic just a thought

Am_A_Bitch · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:58 Post subject: medic just a thought

is there anyway of turning of speed for less than six players
cause the relic makes the game go to quik once a player has it
or less than 4

Mentor · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:17 Post subject:

don't know if this is possible.
Since the number of players on server is never fix (ppl continuously joining and leaving) it's impossible I think.
Let's say a player has speed, suddenly 4 players leave the server. It will be impossible to take the speed from the player i guess.

Unless Medic is wonderboy Wink

If I am on server playing 3 vs 2 for example, I always kindly ask the team with 3 players not to use the speed relic. Most of the time that works allright. Once it gets to 3-3 players they can automatically use it again.

I'd suggest to use some common sense there.
If not used, you can always KINDLY ASK

DanBennett · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 15:12 Post subject:

Its there
Its put as part of the fun
Why say not to use it if its there

I refuse to make anyone tell me not to use a relic if its there on the server. ITs there to be used.

Am_A_Bitch · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 16:02 Post subject:

only u would come up with that
give respect to the game and don't be such a score loser
its easy to win with speed
the game is more than just winning,but if it means so much to u carry on mate

i respect the trustee's and today i was asked to please not to use speed so i droped it straight away,but its plauers like u that have no respect for the game and u r just out to get a high score

ramdrop · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 16:21 Post subject:

When i paly with about 4ppl, SHOKKKK gets it and i find it fun tryin to kill him Razz

it shud be kept !

DanBennett · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 16:53 Post subject:

Flamingo · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 16:57 Post subject:

it was me ,today,who kindly asked Dancebitch to drop the speed,cos they were one player more, 4vs3, and they had scored a couple of times,i think,and he dropped it,no big deal. Mind you,i ASKED,its just my opinion that its unfair when few players are on that the leading team use the speed. It was a suggestion ,nothing more,i wouldnt freak out if he had had a diff point of view..i think Wink

I actually agree with Dancebitch on this one,but to disable it is taking it too far,tho the thought is nice. What Mentor said is also exactly what i think.

ramdrop · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 17:11 Post subject:

Hide it in the air Wink

like you can see it above you but cant get it

Soleil · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 17:52 Post subject:

About the fun there is some differences. Fun on the i4g servers is defined as fun for all playing, not only one or a few. I cant have fun at the costs of the fun of other players. Usualy ppl recognize that, and behave but there also are ppl who ignore that and keep their own fun running.

According to the speed relic I can agree in so far, as it is hard and kind of fun spoiling with 2vs2 and less (uneven teams too, 3vs2 f.e.). If the speed carrier also has a good aim, which mostly is that case (coz the speed carrier gets hunted by the ppl with good aim), his run ends with 8 caps or the vengeance relic - very much fun for the opponents (irony). In big maps its pretty nice to see someone get your flag with speed, shot you and after you respawn (possibly even a bad respawn place far away) you maybe even don't need to try to recover your flag. And that cap after cap, until game ends or your opponent dies by the vengeance.

Some ppl start thinking and don't use speed with 2vs2 or less, some even in 3vs3, which is welcome and boosts the fun of all players and also the atmosphere (coz in this case the others see that and feel having a fair opponent who goes for challange, not for multi-speed-cap-run). But that is just some ppl. Others, and as sad as it just is, the most ppl take advantage of speed and good aim to push their score. Where that leads should be no question here - ppl lose fun and mostly leave the game. Sad, but true. You can see that every day. In this case imho its not fair just to say speed is there to use it (sorry dan, nothing personal), coz for a fair game it also belongs to not-use an advantage. Someone who lets the speed alone and goes for challenge proves a good feeling in fair play imho, also that he really plays for fun - not only own fun that is, but the fun of his opponent too.

Yesterday I was playing CTF with 1vs1 with bots (i think, or 2vs2) and was really surprised as my opponent offered me a game without speed - where I assumed would end like everytime: I make it for 2 caps, get killed and never get the speed again coz my aim sucks. I really apreciated this offer and (here I think he might agree) we had a good game(s).

Solution?
I think there is no _real_ solution. All you can do is talk to ppl, to heir fair-player-issue (because that is in each of us, mostly hidden Wink

) and hope that you don't talk to a wall. Taking the relic away would make the sense of it fail - seeing that strictly it is there to use. I also hardly believe it is possible to disable it depending on team load. What I would suggest, is a small text in the players field of view, which f.e. would say "your team has 1 player more, consider not using speed to keep the game fair" (where teams would be like 3vs2, with a limit to 3players per team, above that there should be no mercy). Or a message which says "Teamload is 2vs2, consider not using speed to keep balance" or something like that. Because you cant force ppl to not-use it, and you should not. Some ppl playing 2vs2 do like using speed, coz the need the challenge to catch them anyway... always depending on who plays.

There should be a way, that works for all of us, that makes us all be fair players, without more rule-creating and stearing by admins/trustees. Imho thats a part of the game where the players can and should make own steps by themselves.

Enough with my book writing, sorry to annoy some of you with that much text, but fairplay is important to me and I hope its at least a bit important to you.

Am_A_Bitch · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 18:13 Post subject:

well put Soleil,just have respect for all
did mummy help u with the words (ONLY JOKING) HeeHee

{lamb}GRiM` · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 18:24 Post subject:

Again just something lame your gonna have to put up with, even though its not really lame and i do it all the time Very Happy

RiK* · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 23:21 Post subject:

a lot of the time i just leave the speed relic, its only useful for flag runs, otherwise its boring to have.

}ElitE{Mike` · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 00:17 Post subject:

seriously mate...this is what your 10th topic? i don't mean any offence by this, but have you ever considered playing elsewhere? or perhaps hosting your own games, only as far as i can see, the majority of people are happy with the way things are played, but you seem to have many problems or suggestions to change things. i don't mean it in a negative way, just asking.

Mentor · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 07:37 Post subject:

he's not being negative here imo. Just making a suggestion that I always make on server too. I like the thinking of common sense.

It's not really realisable in theory, but it might set ppl to thinking, which imo is good in this case.

ramdrop · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 07:50 Post subject:

when i get speed, in likea 3v3, i try and hide it, but it always comes back, i try to avoid it imo, it makes game for fun with normal speed, but then its fun tryin to kill the person with the relic because they are going fater than you.

I like the Vengence anyway Very Happy

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